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    Looking to start a shoal.

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    Topic Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by Special K on Mon Jan 27 2014, 05:18

    Looking to start a shoal. Use to keep many types of fish in the past.
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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by ANDONI on Mon Jan 27 2014, 06:31


    What species of Piranha do you have.






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    Post by Special K on Tue Jan 28 2014, 02:54

    Thanks for your enquiry. I had 6 red bellies in a 180 tank for about 6 years. Before that I had 6 tanks going when I was in School. Always freshwater usually Cichlids. Have been away from the hobby for a while. Have been looking and would like to start a Piranha tank again. I am not too familiar with using the computer in this forum. One time a few years back I dabbled with doing a Swap- Hunt (similar forum) and had many responses from Florida wanting to trade a gator Hunt for a Whitetail Hunt on my Ohio farm. The thought of going out at night on gator infested water didn't peak my interest. So I abandoned the sight. I am hoping some of the other members are not too far away. I have no problem with travel if needed. Especially when it comes to seeing someone's collection of fish.
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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by ANDONI on Tue Jan 28 2014, 05:38

    I use to keep Red Belly piranha, this is a great species for shoaling. Here are some picks of my old group.













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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by Special K on Tue Jan 28 2014, 06:23

    Very nice pictures! Can't wait to start up a tank. I see you are in Michigan. Went to South Manistique a few years ago for vacation in the U.P.
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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by ANDONI on Tue Jan 28 2014, 07:01

    Sam K. wrote:Very nice pictures! Can't wait to start up a tank. I see you are in Michigan. Went to South Manistique a few years ago for vacation in the U.P.

    Very beautiful up-north, can't wait to see you piranha pictures.






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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by Special K on Sun Feb 02 2014, 05:46

    Wife and I went to town looking at tanks. She already told me She doesn't want any cichlids. I'm okay with that. I love schooling Piranhas. Piraya , Caribe , Ternetzi even super reds. I had red bellies 35 yrs ago. My Mother was really cool to let Me get them. They are nice to keep. We probably wouldn't strike you as a typical hobbyist. We live in the country on a farm. I have bred dogs for years before we had children. We raised Rotties , Neopolitan Mastiffs and Yorkshire terriers. We imported
    from Italy and Australia. The Neo's were dangerous and when we found out we were having a son I downsized and started putting up fence and clearing land. We now raise a few Herferds (cattle). I am learning so much more about Piranha. Can't wait to get a tank going. I should have some by June.
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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by ANDONI on Sun Feb 02 2014, 09:19

    Have you ever considered keeping Serrasalmus species, they are some of my favorite piranha. Once you set up a piranha tank we would like to see some pictures, post them on piranhafear first.  






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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by Special K on Sun Feb 02 2014, 16:16

    I might consider serrasalmus species eventually. Are these fish usually kept solitary? For now would like to get Caribe or Piraya. I also like the Ternetzi. At least from what I read about them. Have you ever had any of these three species? Thanks for any help.
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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by ANDONI on Sun Feb 02 2014, 18:20

    I have had these species also, the Caribe are very aggressive. The Serrasalmus family would be better kept solitary. In my option all piranha in the home aquarium should be kept alone because we do not have enough room to house them usually.

    If you have a very large tank you might be able to get away with it, but eventually there are always casualties.






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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by Special K on Sun Feb 02 2014, 21:04

    I had a 180 gallon tank before. Do not want something that big again. Even empty it was heavy. I posted a question about a 75 gallon tank. Is it big enough? I also like a 90 same footprint just deeper. I am disappointed that the beautiful Caribe are so aggressive. Spouse likes pretty fish. So she liked the Caribe color. She has leverage but with compromise I will get my way. The last time I had Piranhas. I had 6 red bellies for 6 years before I sold the tank. Always had good luck with them. Want to try another Shoaling species which of these will I have less problems with. The Piraya, Caribe, Ternetzi and I am seeing one called a super red? Can you rank them in order.
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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by ANDONI on Mon Feb 03 2014, 01:48

    If you get the Red Belly you probably will have a better chance with them, they have been breed in captivity for some time now. Wild piranhas will be more aggressive, I'm not saying the other one wont work because hobbyist have had success with them, but long term you will have cannibalism I think eventually.

    But I still love a Shoal of piranha  Thumbsup , I like the Serrasalmus Maculatus






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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by Special K on Mon Feb 03 2014, 03:31

    Thanks for your thoughts. If that is a Maculatus picture with your reply they are beautiful!
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    Topic Re: Looking to start a shoal.

    Post by ANDONI on Mon Feb 03 2014, 08:01

    Yes the one in the picture was my old Maculatus, he was really rhomboid.






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